Posts by Stand for Pure Worship

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Mexican family killed and very heartbreaking!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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in mexico there was a jw family of 8 killed with machetes it's very heartbreaking!

the problem i have is why does the wbats not make a mention of things like this in the yearbook!!!

they will tell you about how a brothers chickens didn't die and how jehovah must have blessed him... but if a whole family is killed where is the mention of jehovah now??????????????????????????????????????

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Lol Ajustments, I've been to my fair share of Service Meetings, have done quite a few of the YB parts although admittedly I've never read one in its entirety. Just not my type of hype when it comes to reading material. Not really into propaganda. You know I don't usually do this for people who are so much more intellectually superior than me, but I decided to dust off my 2012 YB. Low and behold I turned to page 18, where it states that 12 JWs lost their lives, 5 were seriously injured, and 2 were still missing as a result of the earthquake in Japan on 3/11/2011. But the WT doesn't talk about tragedies affecting JWs, right.

By the way, I like how you only saw what you wanted to see in my comment about why the tragedy in Mexico might not be mentioned in next year's YB. Here I'll paste it for you.

"To be fair, I don't see why something like this would ever be mentioned in the YB considering the typical format of the book unless next year's book has a chapter on Mexico."

As Yadda mentioned, they may very well touch on this tragedy, especially if Mexico is one of the countries selected to examine in next year's YB. But as I mentioned previously they have posted tragedies affecting JWs in times past. They may not do a 10 minute audience discussion part on it during the Service Meeting, but I wouldn't say they're hiding the story either. Besides, with a tragedy like this who would want t o discuss it at the Service Meeting anyway?

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what scriptures do the elders use that???

by Crazyguy in

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what scriptures do the elders use to say they are in a position over you and can judge you and can make you go to them for reinstatement etc???

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Jeff beat me to it, but Heb 13:7 comes to mind, although I think its funny that this verse is used more to make the case for following the instructions by attendants than the counsel given by elders. I guess it's because it's already a given as to whom are the alpha dogs within the congregation are. 1 Tim 5:17 comes to mind as well as it mentions elders deserve double honor. This thread really emphasizes that elders only have as much power over you as you let them have.

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Thinking of taking a break from this forum

by yadda yadda 2 in

starting to feel my time is wasted on here lately and its time to move on.. some of the best, meaty stuff only gets a few hundreds views and as soon as the posts dry up a bit the thread is soon forgotten (usually in a few days) under the constantly falling snowflakes of new threads (many trival) continuously being created and popping up as 'active topics'.

the same core jw related subjects then keep reappearing over and over again as new threads without getting a thorough treatment at the time (eg, there must be at least one 'are jw's a cult' thread started each week on here; 'new light' topics get about 20 new threads started with the quality of analysis spread and diluted over all of them.).

anyone else tend to feel the same way at times?.

Stand for Pure Worship

Well, Yadda, if that's the case, then there's no reason for you to stop posting. 300 something views? Within those three hundred views, I imagine most were fellow posters, but I'm sure there were lurkers amongst them as well. If even it were only one lurker that took the time to see your point, wouldn't that still be a success? What would you say if I told you that I ended up coming across this message board after Googling something about JWs that bothered me which ended up being the subject of a thread here that only lasted one page? That one obscure thread that I can't even remember who posted it or what it was about, ended up hooking me on this forum. That said, so what if your threads dont go three and four pages full of comments. I'm sure a lurker appreciated something you posted of value in response to one of my apologetic posts.

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Thinking of taking a break from this forum

by yadda yadda 2 in

starting to feel my time is wasted on here lately and its time to move on.. some of the best, meaty stuff only gets a few hundreds views and as soon as the posts dry up a bit the thread is soon forgotten (usually in a few days) under the constantly falling snowflakes of new threads (many trival) continuously being created and popping up as 'active topics'.

the same core jw related subjects then keep reappearing over and over again as new threads without getting a thorough treatment at the time (eg, there must be at least one 'are jw's a cult' thread started each week on here; 'new light' topics get about 20 new threads started with the quality of analysis spread and diluted over all of them.).

anyone else tend to feel the same way at times?.

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Mexican family killed and very heartbreaking!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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friends

in mexico there was a jw family of 8 killed with machetes it's very heartbreaking!

the problem i have is why does the wbats not make a mention of things like this in the yearbook!!!

they will tell you about how a brothers chickens didn't die and how jehovah must have blessed him... but if a whole family is killed where is the mention of jehovah now??????????????????????????????????????

Stand for Pure Worship

Lol Outlaw. I shouldn't laugh at that as its messed up but lol.

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'Deal with it!' - WT, in so many words

by Gayle in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20091101/spouse-special-needs/.

an article if a marriage partner has a chronic health issue.

no - did not mention something like - 'just read the bible & you'll feel better.

Stand for Pure Worship

To be fair, this is taken from a public edition WT magazine. That said, one shouldn't expect it to mention anything about the elders, or other JWs lending a hand. To say its a proven fact that elders won't assist ones with disabilities or other situations is a gross generalization. That's not to say there aren't elders like that, but to lump them all in the same boat and call it a proven fact is to be quite honest, ridiculous. I can relate quite a few personal experiences and those of other elders and other JWs that have assisted disabled and elderly JWs. It should also be mentioned that the primary responsibility of taking care of such ones rests with relatives be it spouse, children, siblings, etc.. Also, the part about one who would render themself unable to care for their sick mate should be taken in context. To isolate that one sentence doesn't do justice to the point that the writer was setting up with that paragraph, which is as follows,

"At times, balance becomes a problem for caregiving spouses. Some take on too much work, slowly wear down, and endanger their own health. Eventually, they may even render themselves unable to continue providing care for their beloved mate. So if you are taking care of a chronically ill spouse, do not ignore your personal needs. Set aside regular quiet time to refresh yourself. * Some have found it therapeutic to talk out their anxieties from time to time with a trusted friend of the same sex."

Afterwards it gives practical advice on dealing with the preceding scenario, whether you agree with it or not. I hear where you're coming from Gayle, but be fair.

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Ladies, How Big Is Your Diamond Engagement Ring?

by minimus in

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i notice a trend that suggests that many ladies either have a one carat or bigger diamond ring or much smaller if any.. do you have a diamond ring and if you do, what size carat is it?

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Very small. Lost in house fire. Next one was just small. I would rather have a down payment on a home.

I wonder at times about folks having extravagant weddings, JWs especially, spending all that money on a wedding and reception. Then the couple months worth of paychecks spent on rings. Makes no sense to me. Seems like that money could go towards something more practical for their future like a home. Their money, their life though and they can do as they please.

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Mexican family killed and very heartbreaking!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

jw
friends

in mexico there was a jw family of 8 killed with machetes it's very heartbreaking!

the problem i have is why does the wbats not make a mention of things like this in the yearbook!!!

they will tell you about how a brothers chickens didn't die and how jehovah must have blessed him... but if a whole family is killed where is the mention of jehovah now??????????????????????????????????????

Stand for Pure Worship

To be fair, I don't see why something like this would ever be mentioned in the YB considering the typical format of the book unless next year's book has a chapter on Mexico. They usually select only a handful of countries, and focus on the preaching work within those particular lands. They'll select a couple individuals or couples, usually from different age groups to relate their experiences as related to preaching in that country. I typically don't read the YBs but if I'm not mistaken, they have included stories of tragedy and even the occasional black eye considering the apostasy in Ireland that was reported in one YB even if the segment on that story was propagandic in nature.

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Nelson Mandela - comments of what his life meant to you

by MMXIV in

nelson mandela has passed on.

he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.

has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.

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In somewhat of a harmony with Rebel8's comments, one person's actions labeled as terrorism can be reasonably labeled as freedom fighting or revolutionary by someone else. In Mandela's case my feelings and thoughts lean towards the latter. If he would have pulled a Mugabe it would have been understandable, but he didn't and you have to respect that. Like wow he did the diplomatic thing when it would have been understandable to do the opposite. Turning the other cheek crap doesn't always fly with me, but it takes a bigger man to do so. I guess that's what makes Jesus words, example, and Mandela's actions during his latter years so remarkable. Tit for tat doesn't appear to change the course of history for the better in many cases. Just because the tables have turned putting you higher on the food chain doesn't mean its right to take advantage of your new found position of power.

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Carrie Underwood tweets, thanking God for successful Sound of Music performance

by adamah in

after a live 3 hour performance, the "american idol" winner tweets,.

"glory to god tonight...i couldn't be more proud.

what a tough thing to pull off and we did it!

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Funny she's tweeting this because from everything I read, minus her singing it's evident that she sucks in this element. She was getting hate mail and tweets because she supposedly sucked so bad. I never was a fan of The Sound of Music to the point that it made me cynically root for the Nazis. That said, I'm rooting against this latest rendition of Who Can Suck the Most When Filling Julie Andrews Shoes.